Debbie Millman | Audio

Joe Hollier

Debbie talks to Joe Hollier about an invention of his that is designed to bring back boredom in the era of the smartphone. "Those little moments of boredom that would naturally happen throughout my day, going underground, going on a place, that was when you had ideas happen."

Joe comes from an art, design and film making background. He ran a skateboarding company and studio called Five on That.

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